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Post by painterofworlds on Jun 24, 2009 8:45:26 GMT -8
Wow I really like that idea. you had to use me in the example huh? But I get it, and it seems very interesting. I'm willing to try it out!
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jun 24, 2009 10:29:38 GMT -8
Haha. Noctis' team won the last tournament, so I figured I'd use him as an example Bob's already made a properly coded blitzball program, so all we have to do is enter the stats for each character and the program will process the results, much like the arena tournaments if you've seen those. I'll get to the details soon. Also, does anyone happen to know when Wyvern's coming back? If its in the next week or two I figure we should wait so that he is able to enter with his Jesters team, but if not we'll go ahead without the Jesters this time round. As a reminder to everyone of what the current teams are, I shall post their lineups. The Dark Knights LF = Irvine RF = Tifa Mid = Noctis RL = Cecil RR = Gabranth G = Kain Team MCU LF = Biggs RF = Wedge Mid = Kuja RL = Brother RR = Zone G = Watts The Defenders of Gaia LF = Zidane RF = Amarant Mid = Blank LR = Steiner RR = Beatrix G = Freya Warriors of Chaos LF = Vayne RF = Sephiroth Mid = Seymour LR = Kefka RR = Garland G = Jenova The Besaid Aurochs LF = Datto RF = Jassu Mid = Wakka LR = Letty RR = Botta G = Keepa The Fairies LF = Laguna RF = Kiros Mid = Ellone LR = Raine RR = Rinoa G = Ward The Guild LF = Nanaki RF = Lucrecia Mid = Bugenhagen LR = Ifalna RR = Aeris G = Dr. Cid The Jesters (maybe ommitted) LF = Zorn RF = Thorn Mid = Locke LR = Chime RR = Lani G = Quina All these teams can be changed, and if any character who is in a team they don't like, they can withdraw. Aeris was an NPC in Dr.Cid's team, as was Lucrecia when the team was created, so Amy and Bonnie can both choose to take these characters away from that team if they wanted. Also, if any team wants to be dissolved, that's also fine. I want at least 8 teams in the end, but if the worst comes to the worst I'll create an NPC team to fill the void, but I highly doubt that'll be necessary!
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Post by Bob on Jun 24, 2009 11:00:45 GMT -8
I think Wyvern might be returning in a few days... If he hasn't by the weekend, then I'd say to leave him out of the blitz tournament.
Oh, and I never commented. I like a lot of the stat cap ideas, as well as making individual players instead of teams... I'm a bit unsure of the whole "30 points as a team" idea though, partly because I like blitzball as a make players, trade players sorta deal, so I'm more for making each player and just hoping your team's dynamic works for it... If I ever can weed through my mess of a code, one thing I'd LIKE to add are formations, which could add to the whole team dynamic... O' course, my stupid broken Arena revision is taking up my programming time anymore, but I'll get back to blitz one of these days...
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Post by nobodyspecial on Jun 24, 2009 14:24:48 GMT -8
Well since Kuja long since disbanded his little MCU (Mall conquest Unit), he'll probably start from scratch with a new team, and here it is.
The Terrans LF = Terra RF = Garland (FF9) Mid = Kuja LR = Mikoto RR = Maduin G = Madeline
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Post by Bob on Jun 24, 2009 14:36:16 GMT -8
The Aurochs are disbanding. And actually, Wakka is gonna talk to Jecht about getting onto his team... Wakka and Tidus maybe? *shrug*
And I think (will have to discuss with Ellone) that the Fairies might change their name. Laguna really wants a company team, and he ALMOST has it. With Ellone and Locke's permission, he'd like to boot off Rinoa, boot of Raine, and recruit Locke and Julia (even though he originally said no to her, but she's been playing in the cafe a lot).
So I'm thinking:
The Mallboro Maniacs LF = Laguna RF = Locke C = Ellone LD = Julia RD = Kiros G = Ward
...but it depends on what Ellone and Locke think. Especially Locke, since he'd have to leave the Jesters...
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Post by nobodyspecial on Jun 24, 2009 14:39:19 GMT -8
Also, Irvine is up for the idea of switching to another team if any other team wants him. So long as its man enough of a team for him.
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jun 24, 2009 14:43:56 GMT -8
Yeah, perhaps the 30 points addon is a little weird, but I just figured it might be a good way for a captain to have a little control over how well his team works, and where the emphasis lies.
Before everyone designs characters though, the first thing we need to establish is all the teams, and who is in them. You can do this either here on the forums or work it out over mallboro, doesn't really matter. I'll post something about it with Jecht. Kuja's new team has been noted.
Once all the teams have been established and people know what position they'll be playing in, I think the best thing to do is for every person to send me the stats for their characters (and NPCs for team captains), but to do so in secret initially. Create your character how you want them to be, and send me their stats. Once that's done, I'll send these stats to their respective team captains via pm, so they know what they're dealing with, and can add to them with the bonus stat pool if we go with that idea.
The idea behind the initially secret character design is so that team captains cannot influence the design of other characters in their team, beyond 'X player is a striker, so design their stats with that position in mind', otherwise it would defeat the object of individuality. Also, as Bob said, having player swaps and stuff would be good, so you could headhunt people with the stat builds you want in the tournament after this one. Once the next tournament is over, I'll post something detailing the stats of every player so that everyone can see what everyone's stats are, so they can start selectively headhunting players to suit their team's playstyle in the following tournament.
Also, glad to hear Wyvern might be back. He had possibly the most all-round balanced team of all of us with the Jesters, so he'll be right at home with the newer format for stat design.
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jun 24, 2009 14:48:03 GMT -8
Also, Jecht is thinking of captaining a proper team in this tournament, but he himself will not play. He'll merely be in charge of recruiting players for his team, so I guess it could be considered a Sports Emporium Team. If Wakka, Irvine, and Zell could all participate in that team it'd be great actually.
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Post by nobodyspecial on Jun 24, 2009 14:56:05 GMT -8
Irvine would be up for such a team. You could probably include past employees too, like Biran and Penelo.
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jun 24, 2009 15:01:48 GMT -8
Haha, I'd completely forgotten I had Biran working for me at one point. I seem to remember Ultros working in the store section though, just because I love that octopus. I probably will include them in then, if I don't get any other people wishing to join.
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Post by Bob on Jun 24, 2009 15:19:15 GMT -8
Heh, it could be pretty cool if Jecht's team was just store employees plus a couple of ringers. So Wakka, Irvine, Zell, then maybe Tidus (try to toughen his boy up... unless he's just trying to avoid the twerp ), Ultros would likely be a great goalie, and umm... I'm tempted to say Linna, cuz I always used her in blitzball. Best blitzer in the game in my opinion, but not too fun of a character to include on the team...
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Post by nobodyspecial on Jun 24, 2009 15:20:17 GMT -8
Or Auron. Just cause.
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jun 24, 2009 15:42:17 GMT -8
Linna was an amazing mid-fielder, I always used her too. If Wakka's playing though, he'll likely reprise his role as the mid-fielder, like he was in your Besaid Aurochs team. Likewise, Irvine will be a striker.
I'd like to avoid including Tidus on the team, cause he's a twerp as you say. Ultros will most likely be in goal, Biran and Penelo on defense, and maybe Zell up front with Irvine.
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Post by Bob on Jun 24, 2009 15:51:59 GMT -8
Sounds like a pretty killer team to me.... 'cept Penelo.
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jun 24, 2009 16:01:28 GMT -8
Yeah, Penelo... she doesn't strike me as good at anything really I don't like her as a character, I just had her working at Jecht's Emporium so I'd have a good excuse to complain about her Also, Amy I believe is away til next Wednesday, and she'll probably want to have Sephiroth enter another team. I think we agreed to have Vincent and Lucrecia on Dr. Cid's team at some point or another, so we'll wait for her return before finalising the teams. I'll wait for Wyvern for the same amount of time, too. If he's not back by the time Amy is, we'll drop him and his characters from this tournament.
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