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Post by Bob on Jul 9, 2011 10:32:36 GMT -8
Oh yes, I'm doing it. It won't quite work the same as with AFFR, but we need an area that's full of spoilers and predictions. And so, after reading SSH, Episode 1, it's time to predict!
Alchemilla:
Alex is gonna be piiiiissed. As is his little boyfriend, Travis. I'm so thinking we're going to see a men vs women in this cult (or close to it), which might leave a few people like Harry and Heather in an awkward spot.
Early Alchemilla favorites of mine: Eddie (but he's gone), Heather, Angela, Harry, and even Dahlia/Claudia to an extent! And I'm really intrigued by Mary. She's such a wildcard since she's in SH2 so little, but so far she's bein' all Twisted Sister. She's not gonna take it! Oh no, she ain't gonna take it.
Brookhaven:
Walter is scheeeeeeming! They all are. I'm liking how this is the "smart cult," but it might end up doing them in since they're all going to try to out-strategize each other.
Early Brookhaven favorites of mine: Vincent, Douglas, Cybil, and we'll see about more when Brookhaven has an elimination and starts scheming a bit more. Dumdumdum!
I'll get a better format for the Bet Placing once we're a few more episodes in. Kinda hard to predict for every single person though, so maybe when we're down to fewer people I'll start predicting on a more individual basis.
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Post by Fleck on Jul 9, 2011 11:36:37 GMT -8
Ha! I'm glad you did something like this. I was hoping one of you guys would do it, but I didn't want to suggest it because that would be like, totally uncool, yo. And I am nothing if not the physical embodiment of cool.
*wears sunglasses and a leather jacket while jumping my motorcycle over a pit full of bears
Oh yeah.
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Post by Bob on Jul 9, 2011 12:16:36 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm trying to still decide how to do it though. I'm not sure which team I'm cheering for, nor am I sure which is better, though Brookhaven LOOKS better so far, but we shall see!
Be careful! Those bears are wearing sunglasses, too!
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Post by Fleck on Jul 9, 2011 13:20:42 GMT -8
*Gasp!* Could it... cool bears?!?!?! My greatest enemies!
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jul 9, 2011 15:13:07 GMT -8
With Eddie out of the way Alchemilla cult probably has the physical advantage, with only Walter and to a lesser extent James being reasonably strong and athletic of the Brookhaven team, so depending on where the focus of future challenges lies, it could go either way from here. I'm pretty sure that Dahlia wasn't expecting she could save Eddie from being voted out, but by getting a few votes his way and telling Eddie about it, she'll probably have gained an ally in the event that Eddie returns, or she herself ends up in the Water Prison (not sure how that part'll work yet though). Either way, as long as she's drawing attention away from herself by pointing votes at Alex and the ensuing repercussions, she's probably doing well for herself. I'm hoping for Walter to win now, personally, purely because he's the most interesting character. I like that he lucked out and found the idol early, and am expecting him to be able to somehow maintain the immunity idol while keeping himself out of the picture. While he's not smart in the classical sense of people like Vincent and Kaufmann, he does strike me as cunning. Of course, most of my assumptions on characters are based entirely upon this fanfic, so we'll see
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Post by Bob on Jul 9, 2011 15:34:27 GMT -8
If Eddie returns, then yeah, Dahlia will have an ally, but I doubt he will. The Water Prison is going to have a lot of challenges, probably some physical, so Eddie likely won't survive it for very long. BUT, Dahlia has disrupted the team's unity. Especially the top boys, Alex and Travis, figured they were invincible and thought the whole team would go Eddie, but by ALMOST eliminated Alex, Dahlia still won. She has the team against itself and there's a good chance now that Alex/Travis will find themselves outnumbered by the "weak" players, which will definitely be Claudia and Dahlia, and likely Angela and Mary will bond with them. Mary's playing it strong for now, but she'll realize that she's not as strong as she thinks once there's a pillow challenge.
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jul 16, 2011 15:44:17 GMT -8
I'm still reading, but I just got to the challenge bit about putting cans in the garbage chute. Goddamn that was some serious point-and-click logic right there. Took me bloody ages to work that bit out, and you wouldn't believe the amount of times I swore at James, mashing the attack button to just push out the blockage with his wooden club. THAT WOULD HAVE MADE SO MUCH MORE SENSE! But no, 6-pack down the garbage chute was clearly the only possible way to clear it Furthermore, a 6-pack of sealed cans is probably the closest he's going to get to safe drinking water in Silent Hill, so I wouldn't have wanted to chuck it down where they'd probably explode open.
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Post by Fleck on Jul 16, 2011 16:20:20 GMT -8
Haha, yeah, that was probably the most illogical puzzle in all of SH, although SH4 had a couple of odd ones as well (they were logical in SH4, but stupid. "Put the cue ball on the pool table." Yeah, that makes sense... but why is that going to unlock a door?). I never had problems with the juice puzzle though, because I am phenomenally smart and I... okay, I'd read a review of SH2 that mentioned how stupid that puzzle was, so I knew what to do right away.
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Post by Bob on Jul 18, 2011 15:34:06 GMT -8
I think I attacked the block in the chute, too. I dunno if it was the MOST illogical puzzle, but it was point-and-click for sure. I would've used, y'know, ANYTHING ELSE to dislodge it. Toss a mannequin body down the chute or something, I dunno, but that juice looked good! It was orange! Not that orange is that great, but when you're in an evil world, anything looks pretty good. You're sucking me in, Fleck. I'm enjoying SSH more and more, especially now that I'm starting to make team distinctions in my head. You have a knack for dialogue, too. For pretty much all of the characters I know, I can hear their voices in my head. I watched about twenty seconds of Origins and Homecoming to get a couple other voices and while I was somewhat off on Alex and Elle, I was close. I was almost spot-on with Travis, but that's not hard since his trucker hat almost gives away his stereotypical voice. And as I commented on the actual post, Dr. Kaufmann = dumb. He so needed to be in the puzzle team, as he admitted later. Fail, Dr. K, FAIL! After this episode, I'm so going to have a longer list of favorite characters. They're adding up quickly. You're also making me want to play Silent Hill now! So much that I MIGHT even buy a used copy of Origins! ...I could use a new game, anyway. I'm getting close to getting the Platinum trophy for InFamous now
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jul 18, 2011 15:37:11 GMT -8
Haha. I haven't played InFamous yet, it's just clogging up my hard drive atm Bob, are you getting addicted to trophies like me? That satisfying noise they make when you get one XD
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Post by Fleck on Jul 18, 2011 16:24:38 GMT -8
DON'T DO IT, BOB! I've never played Origins, but I've watched walkthroughs on youtube and...no. No times a thousand.
BEHIND THE SCENES OF SSH:
Dr. K took the physical part of the challenge for two reasons. 1: Because Walter and James were the other two, and Dr. K doesn't trust them to not screw up without supervision. And 2: Because putting Dr. K on the puzzle team would have bumped Douglas, Lisa, or Vincent off to the physical challenge. Douglas might have been able to hold his own, but Lisa and Vincent would have been useless there. It was really a toss-up between Dr. K and Douglas, but I decided that Dr. K had a slight physical advantage and would be better on the physical part.
In the end it didn't matter, because Brookhaven could not find that last coin. All they had to do was roll a six! But the dice, eh, they were not on Brookhaven's side that challenge.
And thanks for the compliments! And the comment! I shall get back to work on the next part!
*slaves away*
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Post by Bob on Jul 18, 2011 16:36:44 GMT -8
Count: I'm addicted to trophies and such, yeah. Also I only have three games for the PS3 right now and I don't like Little Big Planet. I had to do FF13 because 1. Sexy Serah wallpaper and 2. It's a FF, and I have to play FFs to death because I'm me. I'm doing InFamous because it's actually an awesome game (gonna review it soon, maybe today, even though I've said "maybe today" for about a hundred different projects). I am pissed though because I accidentally saved over my Evil game. Grr. Just a warning: InFamous save files auto-organize by date. Yeah, my Hero game was my lowest slot. Then, I played as Evil and saved on slot 2. Then I went BACK to my Hero game to start grabbing up Blast Shards (a trophy) and saved my game on the LAST SLOT. BUT, since I had just played the game, the date played was suddenly bumped up, so now my Hero game was at the top and Evil game at the bottom. And since there is NO distinction between the games unless you sit there every time and wait for it to load your information (which nobody does unless they're curious what their completion % is), I saved over it. Bummer. I already beat the game though, so that trophy and all those are done, but I'm missing the "all Evil upgrades" one. So I need to play again on Evil and upgrade all Evil abilities. Not all abilities PLUS the evil ones, just the specifically evil ones (if I had known that before, I wouldn't have cranked points into non-Evil skills).
So Origins is just...bad? I mean, I know Team Silent left, so they suck, but it's not even worth $20?
I kinda figured Dr. K had no choice, but I figured Douglas would be better suited for lifting. But hell, he's a detective, so he's probably good at puzzles, too.
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jul 18, 2011 17:26:41 GMT -8
If Yahtzee's Zero Punctuation review of InFamous 2 is anything to go by, the sequel is even better! Seriously, anyone who's seen his reviews knows that he's one of the harshest game critics in existence, and he praised it. PRAISED IT. The best most games can hope for is "it's good, but..", but InFamous 2 managed to pass on every point except its moral choice system, which he said is fairly arbitrary as there's no incentive to go any shade of neutral, so you may as well have a 'good campaign' and an 'evil campaign' option from the outset. Not since Portal 1 has a game had such a good review from him. So, if you find a good pre-owned bargain for it at any time, it's probably worth picking up if you liked the first Also, Fleck - what was with your username being Jimbo earlier?
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Post by Bob on Jul 18, 2011 17:36:07 GMT -8
Y'know, Yahtzee is very trusted by me because I'm a helluva critic, too, and he tends to pick up on the same things I say. He liked InFamous for the reasons I like it, too, which is basically "it's fun." It's not a great game, but it's fun. Anyway, I'll review it soon and more on that. I'll stop flooding Fleck's beloved "Place Yer Bets" thread I can answer the Jimbo thing though! It's because Dale was being an ass, so I yelled at Fleck (because that's how I roll), who then changed his name to Jimbo to avoid getting yelled at (it's in the AFFR3 "Bet Yer Place" thread, if you're curious, but spoilers exist in thar).
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Post by Fleck on Jul 18, 2011 19:29:23 GMT -8
My beloved thread! So off topic! Origins fails on nearly every conceivable level. It retcons the HELL out of SH's plot and reorganizes the crap out of the storyline and the characters. Anyone who has seen (and agrees with) Twin Perfect's assessment of the plot of SH will find Origins to be maddeningly awful. The game really shouldn't exist. There's like, three cutscenes and they're all about Travis and his dark past. Lisa, Dr. Kaufmann, and Dahlia all make cameo appearances, but are TOTALLY OOC. Dr. Kaufmann is a weird asshole who has no reason to be in the game. Lisa is an ugly slut. And Origins is set seven years before SH1. So Lisa should be what, 16? And she's a practicing nurse already? Okay, it says she's a "trainee" but still! And Dahlia doesn't speak in riddles anymore, because that's too hard to write, I guess. Instead she's just weird and overtly evil, running around and directly taunting Travis while twirling her imaginary mustache and cackling. And then the game goes on an messes up some pretty basic details of Silent Hill's Origins (oh, irony). What details it DOES provide are usually totally wrong or already stated in SH1. The characters are bad. The monsters are dumb ("What if we have a bear with a giant ass and it drags its face on the ground?" Oh scary!). The thin plot is nonsensical. The puzzles are really simple, but are dragged out by making you backtrack for friggin miles from one door, back to the first, back to the other, and on and on and on. Honestly, it's painful to even watch.
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