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Post by Bob on Jun 29, 2009 12:53:01 GMT -8
Haha, rockin'. I like light-hearted fan fiction. The heavy stuff is too... pointless, I guess. Final Fantasy is good at giving some deep development with their characters, so why bother with MORE deep, dark development? Just have fun with the characters they've set up!
I think this is why Plutonium Nights was a flop. I was trying to get into a fun little back story involving characters you never would've thought twice about, but at that rate, I really might as well make up my own characters/world/story...
I could be wrong, but I think that forum contribution thing is true of a lot of our members. We're totally the community of rejects that demand more intellectual conversations than "i got 5 zodiack speers!" We use like, you know, sentences! Thought out ideas! Exclamation points! (that might just be me)
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jun 29, 2009 15:13:24 GMT -8
Haha, true. Also, I like the fact that there's only a small bunch of us on the forum. I do read forums like on the escapist, but I wouldn't bother posting on there. There's too many people already posting their opinions and thoughts on whatever subject they're covering, that voicing my own opinion would seem pointless. It'd get lost in a sea of other opinions, and possibly flame wars. Also, smaller forum=more intimate. We get to know eachother better that way, and its more friendly.
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Post by nobodyspecial on Jun 29, 2009 16:12:56 GMT -8
Yeah I enjoy that our forum is as small as it is. Its also the only one I'm really a part of, I've signed up for other forums but rarely ever make posts, its usually only so I can read the forums if they're member only. I'm also glad we all use more or less proper grammar and spelling, i.e. English, and not something along the lines of... well I'd give an example, but it hurts my head too much to try and dumb myself down so much as to get to that level. Text talk would be a good way to put it, like r, 2 ,u, ur, lol, rofl, lmao, roflmao, and so on and so forth. I don't even talk like that when I'm texting in and in hurry.
I was part of the WoW forum for awhile since I did used to play WoW for about a year, but that was only when there was nothing else for me to do.
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jun 29, 2009 16:25:58 GMT -8
Yeah, I have been on the WoW forums, I played that game for a year or so as well, then again when my friends all bought the Burning Crusade expansions, but that was a lot shorter lived. Mostly retreading, and the problems were the same - the dungeons were too bloody long. I am in no way prepared to spend 2+ hours in one dungeon, where stopping means I have to start the whole thing again, just for a % chance that an item I need drops.
Thankfully, my account got hacked and whoever took it got me promptly banned, for which I am grateful. If i'm going to play an RPG, I want to play it offline at my own pace, without monthly fees. I have high expectations for Diablo 3 though!
Also, I agree with NS on the whole use of dodgy text speak. I also refuse to use anything less than proper spelling and grammar in forums or text messages. Fleckenstein is obviously with us on this, since he stopped playing Ormi due to the difficulty in deliberately writing like a moron from what I understand. Bob is doing well to keep it up with Selphie, although she is a disturbingly accurate parody of most girls I know.
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Post by Bob on Jun 29, 2009 16:26:23 GMT -8
Selphie posts are so hard to do because I use the text-talk. I actually had to modify her style a bit as I went so that I wouldn't drop Selphie like she was hot. Now she writes posts normally (though she leaves out apostrophes), but comments with text-talk. Though I still occasionally slip in some text-talk into the normal posts. But it's just SO hard to do! Like you, I don't even talk like that when I text (though I rarely text and am really bad at it. texting in a hurry for me is CALLING the dang person).
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Post by agent0042 on Jun 29, 2009 19:32:29 GMT -8
I think this is why Plutonium Nights was a flop. I was trying to get into a fun little back story involving characters you never would've thought twice about, but at that rate, I really might as well make up my own characters/world/story... I liked Plutonium Nights.
Selphie posts are so hard to do because I use the text-talk. I can totally imagine Selphie as a crazy/wild-texter.
But it's just SO hard to do! Like you, I don't even talk like that when I text (though I rarely text and am really bad at it. texting in a hurry for me is CALLING the dang person). Wow, just like me. Actually, in general, I abhor text-speak or anything like it. I rarely use it when posting on the Internet and pretty much never use it when sending a text message (which I rarely do) either.
Edit: I see Clasko's signed up for the position of goalkeeper, which means you won't have to worry about making a stat build, but he'll still be an asset to the team over an NPC. If you do get the itch to make a proper statistical build though, then let me know and Clasko can swap positions. No, that's fine, I think for right now I rather like the idea of not having to deal with that. Goalkeeping will be fine.
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Post by Bob on Jun 29, 2009 20:21:01 GMT -8
Plutonium Nights was just the story that I HAD a direction for, but it seemed like every episode I wrote, I hated while I wrote it... When I went back and read them, I didn't hate them as much, but either way, it just never worked for me.
Sadly, I may eventually tone down Selphie even further, because she's hard to post as... I always figured that Selphie isn't DUMB, so she's fully capable of decent grammar, she's just a busy girl and sometimes wants to just go faster, hence the shorthand. Buuuut since it's gonna drive me crazy, she may progressively develop better and better grammar, and I'll stick to the text-speak in comments.
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Post by seflask on Jun 30, 2009 4:18:58 GMT -8
As an English major, part of me screams when I read Selphie's posts. I also rarely text and I have yet to use text speak.
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Post by Bob on Jun 30, 2009 8:15:12 GMT -8
Part of me screams when I WRITE them.... Fleck felt the same when he played Ormi, which is why he dropped him and why I've already considered dropping Selphie, which is why I'm starting to modify her into good grammar...
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Post by seflask on Jun 30, 2009 8:55:30 GMT -8
If you keep her at the same maturity and attitude level, changing her grammar won't be that much of an impact on her character-wise.
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Post by Bob on Jun 30, 2009 9:38:07 GMT -8
Yeah, that's what I'm shifting towards.
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jun 30, 2009 10:10:05 GMT -8
The text speak is evil. I agree with Skully, I don't think Selphie will be affected too much by poor grammar. I am glad none of my characters have terrible grammar though, the only real exception is Jecht, when he doesn't put a 'G' at the end of some words, like sayin' and fallin'. I always put the apostrophe at the end of the word when doing that though, it bothers me if I don't.
I did do one post when Jecht had lost his fingers in a battle against Ruby dragons, so he had Rikku transcribe what he said. I tried to make the spelling and grammar terrible as it was written by her, and it was really damn hard! I found myself going back over paragraphs and editing them to make them even more text speaky, because I did such a crap job the first time round. I'm glad I don't have a full time character like that.
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Post by Bob on Jun 30, 2009 10:37:47 GMT -8
I (in person and often online) drop 'g's. I almost always use the apostrophe too. It's weird. When I'm writing (ha HA! I put a 'g' there cuz I'm thinkin' about it now), I'll write a word with in' instead of ing, then have to backspace to put in my g.
When I started out with Selphie, I'd write a post, then go back and look for words like "for, be, are, you" and replace them. And even STILL I'd miss a lot just because I don't think like that. Now I'm at the point that I can feel it, but it's annoying. From my perspective, to write like that, you have to think of each word as you go as opposed to thinking of a sentence. So instead of planning to write: "Are you going to the mall?" you have to think of it as: "Are. You. Going. To. The. Mall. ?" (the question mark is its own thought, too, hence the break). Thinking one word at a time makes it a lot easier to change it into "r u going 2 the mall?"
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Jun 30, 2009 11:09:21 GMT -8
That does make sense actually, breaking it down into words. I'll remember that, but I'll probably stick to characters with good spelling and grammar in future.
I'd noticed you'd written a lot of OOC posts as NORG and stuff without G's, though I suppose that might be a reflection of your own accent. Of course I don't know what you sound like so I could be very wrong on that account. I just found it difficult to get into writing that way as I'd never done that before. I also come from an area of England where there is no regional accent as such, so I've gotten used to writing as such.
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Post by Bob on Jun 30, 2009 11:47:45 GMT -8
Yeah, I considered writing NORG in-character like Fleck write the Shoe posts, but I'd get so tired of never using spaces since NORG-talks-like-this. NORG posts and anything I'm writing as me tends to use a fairly rednecky dialect, since that's how I grew up. I'm from a small desert community and while we're NOT rednecks, we HAVE rednecks... And I have this habit of picking up accents when I'm around them long enough.
If you watch something British-made with me long enough like a Harry Potter movie, then I might spend the next hour or so speaking with a British accent. So Count, if by some crazy chance I actually meet you in person and you have a thick enough British accent, don't think I'm mocking you when I start speaking like you ;D It just happens. I sometimes spoke with a mild Jamaican accent while down in the Caribbean on my honeymoon, but not too often since I rarely talked to locals, and basically my wife and I kept to ourselves, so it was very small exposure...
Long story short: Bob be crazy!
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