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Post by Bob on May 12, 2013 10:38:43 GMT -8
This is the first official league of Blitzball. Please sign-up here if you would like to participate in this league. It will be ten rounds and will be a round-robin or a modified round-robin format if it does not fit the ten round model. Teams like the Aurochs and Goers will be added if we do not have enough teams to sign up, but I think we should be fine.
Your standings in the league will determine your position in the tournament. The top league positions will likely receive a bye-round, which will give them an advantage because of the one-game extra Stamina.
This league will be followed by a tournament and all entering the league will be expected to enter the following elimination-style tournament. After the tournament, all Stamina will be restored before starting League #2.
Please submit your team entries here and don't forget to add some trash talk.
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Post by Bob on May 12, 2013 10:39:53 GMT -8
(totally not a double-post)
Grizzly Bears and Thieves 'n Mercs are entering the tournament!
YOU'RE ALL GOIN' DOWN! Yeah, that's right! The two worst teams from the demo tournament are gonna take this WHOOOOLE thang! Suck it!
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Post by Fleck on May 12, 2013 12:28:08 GMT -8
Loveless and The Guests Who are OWNING THE TOURNAMENT![/i]
Yeah, that's right, bold AND italics. Obviously my teams are the best.
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Post by wyvernxk7 on May 12, 2013 13:49:32 GMT -8
NS, TME.
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Post by countlieberkuhn on May 12, 2013 18:33:23 GMT -8
MAG and SM7 are here to rock your worlds!
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Post by Fleck on May 12, 2013 20:58:11 GMT -8
Pah! Neither in bold nor italics! Fools! I see no competition here...
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Post by Bob on May 12, 2013 21:23:32 GMT -8
THE GRIZZLY BEARS WILL EAT YOU!!!!!
Suck on that! Caps, bold, giant, and FIVE exclamation points!
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Post by Fleck on May 13, 2013 0:35:38 GMT -8
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Post by Juice1300 on May 13, 2013 12:34:35 GMT -8
GAU!
STRAW!
BOO!
Hahahaha!
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World Class Creatures is going to gobble you up and spit you out!
Because you taste bad. Like losers.
Loser taste bad.
And you will be the losers.
So that's why you'll taste bad.
...Losers.
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Post by Juice1300 on May 13, 2013 12:39:08 GMT -8
My big, beastly, blitzball baddies bust balls to beat the best! Bring the BOOM or brush your butts bye-bye!
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Post by Bob on May 13, 2013 20:23:28 GMT -8
So what's everybody think? We have 10 teams, which makes 9 Rounds in a Round-Robin format. Should we create an Auroch or Goer team to toss in here? I'd volunteer to make them. I figure we could do as previously mentioned and make the Aurochs a level or two behind all teams and the Goers a level or two ahead of all teams. Neither of these teams, if created, would ever qualify for playoffs and they would not be subject to Stamina.
In this case, I'd say making an Aurochs team that's slightly weaker than average would be best. Level 8, or so. Whatcha'll think? Aurochs? Or do we just go 9 rounds? Mostly asking Fleck since he did the Stamina math. Is it better and more balanced to have the predicted 10 rounds, or would chopping it down to 9 be fine?
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Post by Fleck on May 13, 2013 23:46:51 GMT -8
Nine would be fine. The math doesn't really change, per se, when you add or subtract games, but it does affect the strategy. A rotation that works well in ten games would be badly-timed in a nine game season and would leave you stuck with reserve players in the playoffs.
In fact, it might be a bit better having nine, as having fewer games would make it a little easier for everyone to get the hang of the stamina system and switching players. We can always add more games next season if we want.
I think, for the first season, we go only with player-controlled teams, and then add in Goers and Aurochs (and a slightly longer season) next time. Just so that everyone has a chance to get in the swing of things and work out the kinks.
EDIT: Oh, before I forget. While the exact number of games in a season isn't too important, I really advocate a 3-game playoffs. Anything more or less would definitely affect the math and the strategy.
So I think the best way to achieve this is to have the best six teams advance to the playoffs, with the top two getting a first round bye. Then you have the four face off, with the two winners facing the two bye round teams, and then the two winners facing in the finals.
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Post by Bob on May 14, 2013 20:17:13 GMT -8
Interesting about the playoffs. How does it affect the strategy that severely? As it seems, it shouldn't be too difficult to keep Stamina up if you create a diverse team, right? Bench a different player in every game and you'll keep your Stamina maxed-ish. I haven't done the math, so I can't verify, but it's interesting that a six team playoff would be so drastically different than an eight or ten. Theoretically, teams can manage the four-round playoffs, right? Wouldn't it then just be that the teams that don't get the first round bye are just at a small disadvantage? I kinda like the idea of only the top two teams getting that one brief game off to hold onto some Stamina.
I guess I could do the math and all, but I was just kinda hoping that all teams would get to playoffs regardless, just to be more fun, but league winners would have a small advantage, which is what the Stamina and bye round would do.
I suppose I'm just hoping you could elaborate on how the strategy is affected by doing 3 rounds instead of 4?
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Post by Fleck on May 14, 2013 21:22:04 GMT -8
How big or small the advantage is depends on how you build your reserve players. The reason I'm big on a 3 game playoffs is because it's theoretically possible to play the entire postseason without using any of reserve players, so long as you rest your starters wisely during the season. So it frees you to be more creative with your reserves, since you won't necessarily be forced to use them in the finals.
The most a forward can go without rest is 3 consecutive games (on the fourth, they only have 1 stamina and can only play goal or be benched). So a four game postseason would require you to bench your forwards at some point. Now, if your reserve players are heavily offense oriented, that's not really a problem. But if you built your reserves to be all-rounders or defensive, it puts you at a severe offensive disadvantage in the middle of the most important games in the series.
You could make the argument that being forced to bench players in the postseason creates added tension and drama, as you have to decide who and when to bench. But I'm concerned that it would unfairly penalize people who choose to be more defensive with their teams and ultimately encourage more homogenous team builds.
A case can be made for either side, but right now I think we should stick with the perhaps simpler 3 game playoffs and then decide if we want to change anything from there.
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Post by Bob on May 15, 2013 6:18:57 GMT -8
MY thoughts are that it makes the league more important if we have a 10-team playoff. That way, if you're #1 or #2 in the league, then you get that 3-round advantage and don't need to bench any players, but if you're one of the other 8, you're playing slightly handicapped. Otherwise, I don't see a huge need to win the league. More on this later, but I must away to work.
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