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Post by countlieberkuhn on Nov 30, 2010 6:31:25 GMT -8
Looked through the old threads and couldn't find the previous one, probably because I'm secretly blind or something, but happy birthday fleck! Keep up the dark sarcasm!
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Post by Bob on Nov 30, 2010 8:25:20 GMT -8
Indeed! Ya old coot! Back in OUR day we didn't HAVE birth, let alone a birthday! Ah, the good ol' days.
And you'll have a b-day update just as soon as I'm home from school, so roughly 1pm. Woo!
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Post by agent0042 on Nov 30, 2010 8:37:58 GMT -8
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Post by seflask on Nov 30, 2010 11:06:30 GMT -8
Happy Birthday!!
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Post by Fleck on Nov 30, 2010 11:34:11 GMT -8
That's okay. I'm man enough to handle two birthday threads. Thanks, guys!
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Post by bloodfestbutterfly on Nov 30, 2010 12:50:27 GMT -8
Happy happy berfday!
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Post by Fleck on Dec 1, 2010 0:04:04 GMT -8
Nice update, Bob. Finally got around to reading it.
But I feel the need to argue! Thieves are TOTALLY better than black mages. True, a thief is probably the weakest of the physical classes, but they do attack more often per turn, so it kinda balances out. But yeah, the original FF1 had major, major balance issues, so thieves still suck, even with the extra attacks, but black mages are even worse! They're ONLY useful during boss fights. Unless you level the hell out of them, they only get 2-4 castings of their best spells, and you bet your ass you aren't gonna waste them on some damn zombies, so the black mage sits in the back 99% of the game, waving his useless dagger at foes and pretending he's contributing to the fight. The thief may not be utterly raping enemies in holes they never knew they had (like those damn overpowered Fighters), but at least he helps out in the game's 9 billion random encounters.
And in the Dawn of Souls remake, thieves are much better balanced.
SO THERE!
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Post by Bob on Dec 1, 2010 8:50:54 GMT -8
Heh, order IS important in True Cast, and you'll notice Black Mage IS the very last Secondary spot for that basic reason. But I decided to bump him up just because he's good against bosses, and some bosses in FF1 are HARD. You have to have a really good support team to use a Black Mage though. The other problem with thieves is that if you fight something with high defense, it doesn't even matter if they hit 100x because those hits have to do positive damage to the monster. If they hit for 0 53x, that's still 0.
So yeah, I just have hate for thieves. I never gave Black Mages a huge attempt in that game, so maybe they're worse than I'm thinking, but I know some magic was very helpful during bosses and I wished my Red Mage had more spells and more magic power for those. Gotta take down bosses fast because once they eat through your Fighter(s), you're doomed. DOOOOOOOOMED.
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Post by Fleck on Dec 1, 2010 15:01:57 GMT -8
I still say that a character who's somewhat helpful a million times is better that a character who's really helpful 10 times.
Friggin black mages....
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Post by Bob on Dec 1, 2010 15:11:33 GMT -8
Yeah, but my thief was never helpful. I had a game of two fighters, a thief, and a red mage, and the thief never helped me at all. But I know that I like somebody in a pinch like black mages that can beat bosses, particularly since those early FFs don't ONLY require finding the end of a dungeon, but then getting back out of it and back to town, and bosses tend to eat me alive, so the faster I get out of there, the faster I can get back to an inn. Too many times I barely finish off a boss, only to go "yay....wait....shit, I gotta walk back to town with this one, poisoned character....wonderful."
And nobody can defeat FF1 poison. I think poison single-handedly ruins FF1. Getting smacked around is one thing, but standing by a counter buying a zillion pures is crap.
Anyway, yeah, black mages suck. I won't defend them very much. I don't think I've ever used them much, either, but I use all black mages the same (for bosses only, basically). I think the only black mage I haven't treated this way is Lulu. When save crystals restore your MP, plus you get TONS of it, I'm happy. FFX rules! Like O'Doyle! But yeah, my very first FF1 attempt I used a Fighter, Black Belt, Thief, and White Mage. I thought I was being diverse and awesome, but everything except the Fighter sucked, but Thief especially pissed me off because I ONLY picked him to steal, and he can't steal. *sigh*
EDIT: Then again, black belt pissed me off, too, because I picked him for barehanded fighting, and he sucks without nunchucks. I think late in the game he's good with fists, but it takes WAY too long.
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Post by Juice1300 on Dec 14, 2010 23:32:54 GMT -8
HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY TODAY!!!!! Belated, did I mention? Yes. Good.
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Post by Bob on Nov 30, 2011 22:28:03 GMT -8
OMG IT'S A VERY FLECK BIRTHDAY!!!!! IF NOT FOR TODAY BEING A HELLISH DAY FOR NEEDING TO PREPARE SHIT I'D HAVE SOME SORT OF UPDATE UPLOADED BY NOW!
....I'm being observed by the principal tomorrow for the very first time, so I'm busy as crap trying to look like I'm a decent teacher. So it will unfortunately be TOMORROW, that you get an update. In fact, updates for all, since I've missed a few birthdays as of late! Tomorrow or this weekend, updates cometh!
BIRTHDAY UPDATE IS BASICALLY DONE THOUGH! WOO! HAPPY BARFDAY!
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Post by countlieberkuhn on Nov 30, 2011 23:56:19 GMT -8
HAPPY UPCOMING BIRTHDAY UPDATE FLECK!
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Post by wyvernxk7 on Dec 1, 2011 6:39:34 GMT -8
Holy crap!!! Happy birthday!
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Post by Fleck on Dec 1, 2011 8:14:38 GMT -8
Thanks! My birthday update better be SUPER MEGA AWESOME or else ummm....
I'll think of an "or else" later.
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Happy birthday!
