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Post by Bob on Sept 14, 2007 22:43:21 GMT -8
 Game: Final Fantasy VII Status: Minor villains Strengths: Ruthless. Professional. Devoted. Weaknesses: Minimalists. Role: Reno and Rude do all the dirty work for Shin-Ra, which includes kidnapping, murder, theft, and so much more. They are a recurring villain for the heroes of FF7 that get in your way when you mess with Shin-Ra, but tend to back down when their job does not require them to do so. |
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Post by nobodyspecial on Sept 14, 2007 22:52:26 GMT -8
Sweet, I was hoping you'd add Reno & Rude!
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Post by Dale on Sept 14, 2007 22:53:13 GMT -8
Oh, not a bad choice. Not a bad choice at all.
Mid-race booting, at the very least. I don't see this team in the F3.
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Post by nobodyspecial on Sept 14, 2007 23:13:47 GMT -8
Well, they have good stats, but they are not much of a Serious team, they seem more like the team to be in this for fun and not really for the million gil, somewhere between getting eliminated between the 5th and 8th leg, or making a mistake or screwing up early and getting an early elimination
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Post by Fleck on Sept 15, 2007 12:03:28 GMT -8
Reno and Rude will kick ass, as long as they can avoid the alcohol long enough to win.
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Post by nobodyspecial on Sept 15, 2007 12:25:23 GMT -8
True...
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Post by Dale on Feb 27, 2008 1:04:28 GMT -8
They won the first leg, but let's not have a two for two. That'd be boring.
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Post by nobodyspecial on Feb 27, 2008 15:16:51 GMT -8
Yeah but you have to realize that they can't be unable to win just because FF7 won last time. Besides there is no reason connection between Shinra/Rufus and Reno/Rude except that they have pre-existing relationships. It's not like all FF7 characters are special in one way and that makes them win. They have just as many chances of winning as they do losing. Think of it as flipping a coin. Odds are that it won't land heads or tails twice in a row. But how often do you not get that outcome? Many of the times that you flip it, it will in fact do twice in a row. Sometimes three times or even four times. Sure the chances of that get lower every time, but for every individual flip, its a 50:50 chance. No two ways around that. As for AFFR, trust me, in no way would it be boring if two AFFR teams won in a row, its a whole new ballgame, what happened first season has absolutely no baring on what will occur this time around. And, it's the race thats interesting, of course without the ending its nothing, but without the race the ending is nothing as well. The two must exist as a whole, one in unison with the other. My point being, If I told you the outcome right now without the race having started, would your reaction be any different depending on who won? You might think so but no. If say Reno/Rude won, you'd be something like "oh thats boring two FF7 teams won in a row", then what if Dona/Barthello won? Probably " Oh... Ok, whatever I haven't seen it yet." (keep in mind this is as if you're watching it as a show), now as you're watching it, wouldn't you be more interested to see how Reno/Rude won when by Rufus/Shinra winning their chances of a second FF7 team winning was lowered by half? Yes, you'd like to see how exactly that came to be when odds were against it. Whereas if Dona/Barthello won, you no longer have anything to watch the race for, or for example, if flipping a coin always had a 50:50 chance, why would you bother trying to uneven that? Its set in stone. Its funner when its breaking the rules than when it follows a format that can't be changed. So, in case I spoke really confusingly there, the point is that well, it wouldn't be boring to watch if Reno/Rude won. Seeing how they won if they win is half the show afterall. And Knowing the outcome before it comes and ruling teams out due to that is no fun, though seeing a team that you thought shouldn't have been able to win win, makes it interesting. Besides, If Reno/Rude really are good enough to win, then it'd be worse to stupidly change that and ruin it, only for that reason. This applies to all things by the way. If you're reading Harry Potter, than of course you know that Harry prevails, Voldemort dies and happy ending and all that jazz, and you know that happens with nearly every book out there (as long as its the final part). Yet you still read it. You want to know how they did it, not that they did. And now I rest my case, or at least until someone brings up a flaw in it and I'm forced to argue some more. And I apologize for the goign in circles and confusing examples and everything. I suck at simple explanations.  |
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Post by Bob on Feb 27, 2008 17:04:58 GMT -8
He was actually referring to how Reno and Rude won the first leg of Season 2... Saying how it'd be boring if they won the first two legs. Although I still believe your point to be valid. He has mentioned to me in private how he hoped FF7 didn't win again, and I feel the same way as you. It kinda makes it more thrilling then when it gets down to the final 3. If Reno and Rude (since Barret and Dyne are gone) were in the Final 3, then you'd be stuck wondering "Would Bob make another FF7 team win? Or does he think the same game winning both rounds is bullcrap?" Though, that'd be an odd line of questioning since I have no friggin' idea who'll win. I don't even know who'll win Episode 2! ....I'm lame.
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Post by Dale on Dec 8, 2008 16:59:53 GMT -8
Seeing these two so cocky and smug and sure they had the third leg in the bag by coaxing Reina & Faris, Brahne & Garnet, and Biran & Yenke onto their flight in the hopes of leaving them all in the dust, only to find out they were the two left in the dust, was PRICELESS! One of my favorite parts of the third episode! It took them till the Roadblock to even come close to all of them!
That said, I'll give them their due for their commendable little game of catch-up. They've shown on all three legs so far that they can fall behind, but fight their way back up toward the top very, very well. They actually passed Biran & Yenke and very nearly passed Brahne & Garnet and managed to land in the top three for the third consecutive time.
These two, to me, are the team to beat. Which usually means that they will, indeed, be beaten. But the first, tenth, and most recent (thirteenth) seasons of the real show has shown that the team to beat can avoid being beaten. . . .
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Post by nobodyspecial on Dec 8, 2008 20:47:00 GMT -8
Reno and Rude are pretty formidable, I don't doubt they will be a tough contender against the other teams, but something is bound to happen.
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Post by Dale on Jun 1, 2009 17:01:02 GMT -8
Well, something did happen. Looks like they're in last for right now, currently on leg five, but with Fran & Balthier constantly mentioning get rid of them, I just know something's going to happen to save them. But I think -- I think -- they'll miss the top three for the first time on this leg.
Really, I'm surprised Zone & Watts and Dona & Barthello (thanks, Barthello) didn't take the chance to get rid of them for Fran & Balthier.
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Post by Dale on Jun 8, 2009 23:52:03 GMT -8
Whoa. I totally expected a surprise upset, but fortunately (at least for me) that didn't happen. Reno & Rude are now GONE!
I've gotta admit, while I do kinda feel for them, knowing it was mostly bad luck with their Flammie-Taxi that left them vulnerable to Fran & Balthier's U-Turn, I'm not that sad about them leaving. They honestly kinda . . . bored me.
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